One of the definitions of treason is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. More than 58,000 Americans died in the war.. I dug in my heels. She continued openly to question the accounts of the U.S. government and American POWs, who told devastating stories of the torture they endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. placement: 'Right Rail Thumbnails', But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription!, In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. NORTH: In fact refused to apologize for the POW meeting, which was tantamount to, basically torture. It was treason, nothing more and nothing less. The actual allegation took the form of an email citing the alleged experiences of a number of Viet Nam War veterans at the hands of Jane Fonda. This, probably more than anything, earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane.. She has reportedly been shopping a tell-all book this year. All of the facts, in retrospect, lead to the conclusion that the U.S. government's purpose in dragging America into Korea was not to defeat communism but to kill as many Americans as possible in an ignoble defeat, get rid of the hero MacArthur as a possible presidential nominee, and lure a disillusioned America into acceptance of one world government. The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. : Yes, that one story was true. WebJane Fonda & TheVietnam War. Many Americans traveled to Rumors spread and still persist that she betrayed them by accepting secret notes and then turning them over to the North Vietnamese. She was reportedly also an aspirant for a role on "Fox & Friends," the network's morning show. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. We now see a pattern of sedition/treason. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? Her name was Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. Read on. Richard Morgan, As Jane Fonda promotes her new film, "Monster-in-Law", its up to all of us to let our children know about the specific activities she undertook during the Vietnam War. After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America [2] Peter Collier, The Fondas; A Hollywood Dynasty. CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? [2] While criticizing America, she made laudatory comments about the Soviet Union. Dr. Rockefeller certainly did not defend Communism as a "Jewish" system, since it is the Hebrew Bible that was the basis of our Common Law, and hence much of our Constitutional Order. He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. Have a tip or story idea? Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. Johnson then ordered 165,000 U.S. forces under General Westmoreland to support a handful of American "advisors" previously ordered there by former President John F. Kennedy, Democrat. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. She claimed she was sexually harassed by correspondent Brian Wilson and later spoke out against Fox News' culture after the Ailes scandal broke. Communism is an atheistic system, and even advocating it is a serious offense in my eyes (with or without war crimes participation). But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. There's nothing like a historian 'cherry-picking' his citations or only presenting a partial 'truth' from his source. In 1972, actress Jane Fonda traveled to North Vietnam on an anti-war mission. Please try again later. In July 1972, during the waning days of U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, actress Jane Fonda incurred the enmity of untold thousands of Vietnam veterans and their families (as well as service members for generations to come) when she arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam, and began a two-week tour of the country. target_type: 'mix' I mean, you know, of all manner of slings and arrows were thrown my way. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. Here is my best, honest recollection of what took place. Again the secret policy of the financiers was: "containment of communism" while disallowing an American victory. Was Jane Fonda's sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun that was used to shoot at and kill Americans, and launching an anti-American PR campaign with the North Vietnamese giving aid and comfort? In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. Though Fonda has been an activist throughout her life, the only other time she has spent the night in jail was in 1970, when she was 32, on a speaking tour protesting the Vietnam War. During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. 1991) Pages 225-229. Market data provided by Factset. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. But look, you have more to talk to us about something you're going to show us. It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. Andrea Tantaros, former co-host of "The Five," filed a lawsuit saying that Fox News operated like a "sex-fueled, Playboy-Mansion-like cult.". I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America. Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. She called our president, according to this report, "a new type of Hitler," pilots "war criminals.". CNN anchorChris Wallace grilled Hollywood legend and activist Jane Fonda over her controversial visit to North Vietnam that caused millions to dub her Hanoi Jane, and got a full spectrum response on the subject. The answer, of course, is that they won't. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? Even Trotsky, whose philosophy I do not advocate, could see this relationship between the capitalists and the communists clearly (hypocritically denouncing it, since he went along with it). What followed was a long-lasting wave of criticism and international outrage that earned Fonda the nickname " If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. To begin with, the title is deliberately misleading: his real point has nothing to do with Jane Fonda. If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. Here's what she's got. It evidently didnt. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. Please support this 72-year tradition of trusted historical writing and the volunteers that sustain it with a donation to American Heritage. They held signs that read Forgive? The U.S. government secretly abets communism around the globe, then sends in the American military to "contain the communist menace". There is no doubt these treasonous no-win US wars were meant to disillusion the American nation into accepting loss of sovereignty and one world government." Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. We have no right to attack that country. That's an apology. Why? I make it a habit not to intervene as an intern. Many Americans traveled to Vietnam on peace delegations to end the war, yet it was Jane Fonda who was captured as a timeless image when she was photographed looking through a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. 1972: 'Hanoi' Jane--Text from CNN.com, "Vietnam: Echoes of War, Cultural Timeline" Jane Fonda -- actress, political activist and partner of anti-war The POWs are beaten. Some lawmakers calledher actions treason. After countless apologies spanning four decades, Breitbarts John Nolte believes Hanoi Jane Fonda should finally be forgiven for her antics in Vietnam.. Fonda has said categorically that she was an adult at the time and called her JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. A new HBO documentary on Fondas life, Jane Fonda in Five Acts, explores the fallout for the actress, who is now 80. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. Thus, Europe, Russia, China, Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Thailand, Japan, the Middle East were turned into killing grounds, and their existing governments destroyed. Fonda traveled to Hanoi, Vietnam, to protest the Vietnam War, but she did not do most of the things the post claims. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. Subsequently communist China was awarded a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, its most powerful chair. The Washington Post spent that day with Fonda, following her and a dozen or so students to Fort Meade in Maryland, where they planned to hand out antiwar leaflets to soldiers. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. "War Stories," Colonel, we'll be watching this Sunday, 8 p.m. as usual. Jane Fonda remains unforgiven. "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. I don't want people putting words into my mouth, saying "you're going to tell us all these bankers and financiers are Jewish", for instance. The people who are speaking out against the war are the patriots. She said the radio addresses were the only way to get access to American soldiers, because she was barred from meeting them at their bases in South Vietnam. In 1972, Fonda toured North Vietnam, where she spoke against U.S. military policy in the country. Johnson solemnly announced that "Communist aggression must be stopped as a threat to American security!" For the next severalyears, Fonda would continue as one of the most prominent public faces in the antiwar movement. An analogy: I'm more upset by somebody coming into my house and stealing from me than I am by a tax increase, or even by government malfeasance. Email us. She said: I have very few regrets. Did we lie about the body that we planted on Omaha Beach (search), trying to convince the Germans that we were going to land somewhere else? On the basis of those meetings alone, she proclaimed that American POW's weren't being mistreated, and that any who said they were mistreated werte either liars, or were simply experiencing punishment for their racist treatment and attitude towards their Vietnamese captors. 's and eMediaMillWorks, Inc.'s copyrights or other proprietary rights or interests in the material. Sadly, the Founders also mixed a great deal of Greco-Roman Humanism with this heritage, allowing room for much of what you decry. Trusted Writing on History, Travel, and American Culture Since 1949. Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. How did we get into this war? Did our government lie to us during Vietnam? Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. officer gets an idea. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. As anyone who knew or worked with me in those years knows my heart has always been with the soldiers. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. NORTH: These are the things that this woman did, and she has not apologized. Free subscription>>, Please consider a donation to help us keep this American treasure alive. I am assured it will be taken care of. During the photo sessions during her visit to Vietnam, she strongly believed were setups and a grave mistake on her part. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned Legal Statement. Youre gonna come through it, okay. For example, she went on Radio Hanoi a number of times, while our troops, your friends, were being shot at by an enemy in Vietnam, saying our POWs were in good health. So I ask, should she have been put on trial for treason? They have never acknowledged their role in the killing fields of Cambodia and fail to discuss the fact that Vietnam, one of about four communist countries left on the face of this earth, is currently at the bottom rung of third world nations in terms of per capita income. Bates. All Rights Reserved, Copyright MAGA Conservatives. Oh, my God. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. The great General Douglas MacArthur drove the North Koreans, led by Red Chinese And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. Jane Fonda tested the limits of patriotic dissent. I mean, he realized that. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. Hows this for a story? Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. William Burkhead, a Democrat from Anne Arundel, said, I wouldnt want to kill her, but I wouldnt mind if you cut her tongue off, according to a Post story. If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured.. Fonda addresses the media in December 1972 to protest U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War. Also Read: Megyn Kelly Trashed by Rosie O'Donnell as 'Spineless Wanna Be Barbie' for Jane Fonda Spat. She apologized for being on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun site. MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. [3] And she referred to the POW's as hypocrites and liars.[4]. This article was published more than4 years ago. By denying their mistreatment or not investigating their treatment,in an effort to sway public opinion to her own perceived vision of the national interest, she did harm to her countrymen in captivity. This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," April 6, 2005, that has been edited for clarity. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. Now, I leave it NORTH: Well, yes, as a matter of fact I think she is. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? No license is granted to the user of this material except for the user's personal or internal use and, in such case, only one copy may be printed, nor shall user use any material for commercial purposes or in any fashion that may infringe upon Fox News Network, L.L.C. That begs the question, responsible for what? It was the last day of my two week time there. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. The Veterans of Foreign Wars passed a resolution calling for her to be prosecuted as a traitor. By July 1972, when Fonda accepted an invitation to visit North Vietnam, America had been at war overseas and with itself for years. In July of 1972, she made two trips to Hanoi which earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane. Someone (I dont remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. Many Americans disapproved of Fondas comments There's no denying that she defamed POWs by whitewashing the Viet Cong's treatment of them and later calling them liars when they spoke out." MacArthur publicly insisted upon victory, infuriating the international banks. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. Fonda hasapologized for the liars and hypocrites statement, which she said she made out of anger that the Nixon Administration was lying about the extent of the POW torture for propaganda purposes. Stunning Black And White Photos of Van Nuys Boulevard In 1972 By Rick McCloskey, Pam Grier: 20 Photos of Beautiful Actress in the 1970s, 30 Photos That Show Fashion Styles Of Young Women In The 1970s, 30 Photos Of Barbi Benton In The 1970s And 80s, Babylonian Map of the World: The Oldest Map of the World, Most Impressive Armours With Attractive And Interesting Designs, Most Impressive Ancient Masks Created By Different Civilizations, Neverwas Haul: Victorian House On Wheels Inspired By Science Fiction Novels, Beachside Bathing Machines of Victorian England, The Evolution Of Women On The Cover Of Esquire Magazine. 5:15 After numerous apologies over four decades, its time to let Hanoi Jane Fonda off the hook for Vietnam. Dave His alliance with the Reds made sense, since both upheld elite control of the world. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. . Even so, the main focus of my essay was whether Jane Fonda participated in war crimes, not whether she was morally culpable for her part as an apologist for the mistreatment of POW's (she was). It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. His replacement, General Ridgway, said after the war: "The reason we didn't win is because I was under orders not to win". I mean, he realized that . Look it, there were clandestine operations conducted in every war. But the reality of it is, Alan, this is a woman,who I quite frankly feel sorry for. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. Ms. Fonda's actions, however, directly affected helpless individual captives and their families. . She called the POW's liars. In another she was looking into the She was a symbol of a divided nation. Kelly was defending herself after Fonda said over the weekend that the question was so inappropriate and that Kelly is not that good an interviewer.. But also admits to consulting with psychics. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. I feel sorry for NORTH: She didn't apologize, Alan. This "police action" quickly developed into a full-blown but undeclared war. But she maintains she was not a traitor by speaking out against the war or trying to turn soldiers against it, because she still believesthe U.S. government was lying to them. The Bushes have a long-standing relationship with Red China, one that has hardmed our national security, yet few attack them as vociferously as Fonda was attacked. [1] Cited on November 24, 2004. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. They landed two months later on 7 May with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Screw you. Each of them suggested that they had done at least one interview with Fonda, and individually they were looking into the historical accuracy behind the claims made about Fonda and why she became such a lighting rod for controversy.