The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. The same amount of air goes through. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. ft. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. You don't get this risk with the Eden pure . Hogwash. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. However, your actual price will depend largely on the size and type of heater you choose. It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). 2) Say you live in a 11,000 sq. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. I know I would not. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. long time no see stevo it took me ages to find it this is there contact, and some info ,ring them for advice ,say mick give you there number. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. This may be because their previous forced-air system ductwork had or developed leaks, or something was wrong with air-flow on their system (clogged filters !!) Cubic Feet/Minute is the best measure. I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. I love it. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. Out performs? I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. *Rates from 0% APR or 10-30% APR. If the ceiling were 12', then the amount of air, 1200 cubic feet, would need heating. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. I see the infomercial all over DirecTV. THIS is the reason the heating companies have zone heating. You are dead wrong pilgrim. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. For example, an oil based electric heaterit is convection only. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. Would i recommend them? Thank you so much! is too low you end up, cutting in a supply grill to bring the temp. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. Had I done that, I believe, without using a calculator, that cost would be $180.00 a month for just the heat on one floor of my home. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. Secure it to the basement wall using the appropriate masonry anchors for your foundation wall. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. I will not call this a scam. 1st Lt. George W. Bush in uniform. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. Common sense. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. Here's examples of how those would work: 1) Say your furnace has a vent that blows all of the warm air straight outside every time the furnace kicks on giving no warmth to the house. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. Has anyone specifically gone from a traditional electric space heater (ONLY) to an Eden and found an improvement in their electric bill? Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. Everything is on the website and on the adverts. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. The E.P. Less expensive models one have tubes. All I did was laugh when the very reputable heating and air company in our town quoted this amount. How can heated ceramic plates absorb water? Delivery & Pickup Options - 214 reviews of Bill's Burgers, Wings & Things "New venture by the owners of the Maxican Restaurant here in Burnet. It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. Any electric heater is 100% efficient. What else can I do? This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. Types of shades include roller, Roman, blackout, and gentle pull-down cellular. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. Please check with your Demand Response Aggregator for eligibility. Room Air Conditioner. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. Smart Thermostats. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. No repairs either. Connect with Us 5360 Red Arrow Hwy, Stevensville, MI 49127 PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Again, it was ZONE heating and with a heat pump, like that was going to save me money. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. So people, please pay attention to this post and others like it and don't fall victim to this Biotech/Eden pure scam. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Heater vs. AC unit. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. I took a look at these today in a True Value store. Investigations into his military service led to the Killian documents controversy. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). High efficiency water heaters use 10 to 50 percent less energy than standard models, saving homeowners money on their utility bills. Burgers were wonderfully juicy, with the buns toasted on the flat top before assembly, so we got the full old fashioned greasy, buttery effect. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. And it is VERY safe. I plugged it in this spring to take the chill out. I bought the Gen4, have it in the living room in the center of the 1250 sq feet, and I have not turned on my heater. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. We bought edenpure in September. My last post was cut off - 2) A btu is a btu 1500 watts is 5100 btu's .That is all you can put on a 120 volt 15 amp curcuit . I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. This actually makes their heater less efficient. to produce those BTUs. They collect heat from the air, water, or ground outside your home and concentrate it for use inside. He admitted to lying to CBS about the origin of the memos when he said he got them from fellow guardsman George Conn,[6] then claiming that he received the Killian documents from a woman calling herself "Lucy Ramirez" who has never been identified. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. You cannot get more energy out of an electron than is in it. An electric heater is an electrical device that converts an electric current into heat. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Sorry folks, some things I forgot to point out One item that they point out in the Bob Vila scam (I can't call it anything but!) Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. It is likely that Sylvania gets the rated 20,000 hours of bulb life in their normal testing fixtures / burn racks. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. Love my EdenPURE heater! [17] I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. I'll definitely buy another. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. My electric bill actually increased. If you have 5000 BTU, you can comfortably heat a space around 100-200 sq.ft with outside temperature of 20-30 F and typical insulation. is way overpriced for what it does. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. They, too, use energy, but not . It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. [2] Fan heaters are the cheapest, but are often the least efficient and versatile. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. Download PDF manuals for your EdenPURE product. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. I can prove that is nonsense in 3 seconds in my house. Kinko's", "CBS Says It Can't Vouch for Bush Documents", "THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: MILITARY SERVICE; An Ex-Officer Now Believes Guard Memo Isn't Genuine", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Burkett&oldid=1005909946, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 10 February 2021, at 01:33. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. Offering Quality Products that are in stock at great prices and top notch Customer Service are our top concerns. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. Unh uh !! You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? Updating my comments on the EdenPure. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. So, for this is is great. They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. etc. Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. Out of stock at this time though. Furthermore, after you buy the first one they give substantial discounts on future purchases of any of their products. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. Staffing and Recruiting. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. No complaints at all. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. I am preparing to do that now. Go to the Home Depot, Lowe's, Cosco etc., and choose the heater out of couple of dozens designs they have there. Both the gen 4 and the personal. Felt bad for the guy. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. The clue is in the word personal . Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. You do the math. As the . It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. A well designed heater can produce far more heated CFM than a poorly designed heater. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Actual energy savings from high efficiency water heaters depend on family size, heater location, and the size and placement of water pipes.

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